Wednesday, August 14, 2013

Article: Obama's Plan to Destroy America

We have a fundamental problem. Let me describe it:

If you serve in the military, you are subject to UCMJ. As has happened before, you can have disciplinary action taken against you for comments made, for example, on Facebook.

In a response to a comment I made recently about our current situation, an officer stated: "Be careful, he is still the Commander in Chief."

This is an inherent problem. A politician, upon taking up office, becomes the Commander in Chief of the nations military. He can then not be questioned. 

What if that politician is an impostor and a traitor? What if he plans to destroy the very country of which he has become head? What about consistent acts of treachery? Does he still get a pass due to the protection of the office?

If you serve in the military, is it your duty to be a robot, a false patriot, motivated by simply doing what you are told? Are you supposed to be a part of the machine, blindly doing what you are told? Or are you a responsible citizen first?

Read the following article and have a think about that one:

OBAMA’S PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA HATCHED AT COLUMBIA SAYS CLASSMATE


Live Hard, Die Free.

MV

18 comments:

  1. It’s an interesting quandary you pose, Max. The Oath of Enlistment is somewhat contradictory in this day and age because it both binds you to support and defend the Constitution AND to obey the orders of the President. Clearly, at this stage of the game, those two things are at odds with each other.

    I guess it’s a judgment call we’ll all have to make at some point based on what we know is right according to God’s law, not man’s.

    In the meantime, the UCMJ is still in effect. I only point that out as a cautionary note as I’m sure the officer you mentioned did as well.

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  2. Having a little trouble being military and a "patriot"? Drawing more attention to yourself? Bullied and scared by cops, now the very COC you serve! Just wanna badmouth your superior officer, whats the issue? Don't think you could do that in the British military either and it seems the whole system isn't working for you. Yep a specop robot led by the kenyaninchief enforcing his will, is this you? Kinda hard to be on both sides isn't it? So if martial law is declared after he destroys America, as you state, are you the new swat? Yep you with the multicammies and coolio tax bought gear and all your awards from that same COC. You want to brag on the awards and contests but not follow the orders and regulations outlined by Army policy on social media, mmm, your a no go at this station troop.
    He can be questioned just not by you soldier boy. Follow your orders and assimilate smartly and the real patriots will take it from here while we watch you from a distance

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  3. The question is Max, is where does ones loyalty lie, what are ones principles?

    Is your oath of loyalty to an idea of rule of law and Liberty below ones feet, to protecting your loved ones and earthly possessions, the foundations of a society you may bleed or die for protecting?

    Or is your fealty to the rule of men and the diktat of a demigod and his apparatchiks, whom declared intent is to steal from you, deny you, and destroy those same things?

    Did the oath of service specify what, an enemy, one is supposed to protect or defend from?
    Or did it demand blind allegiance to a man and his ideologies counter to this oath?

    Was the intention of taking an oath for the purpose of preserving something critical to a foundation of freedom and happiness of a nation?

    Or was taking an oath a formality to be changed at the whim of the privileged and powerful in order to protect the privileged and powerful from comeuppance and accountability?

    This life is about choices.
    If you took an oath, you make a choice in all instances forever after no matter what you do. Built in choices, no free ride. You have to live with those choices. (I think for whats coming no one gets a free ride)

    The radical chic and the instigators behind the destruction of this republic are not going to stop because an oath they took.

    They will only be stopped because of an oath others have sworn to uphold.

    How honoring this oath is dependent upon one man who violated his matters is quite simply insanity in a sane world.

    Even if one was to never have taken this oath, just passing those words past ones lips is a reverent event. They are for one a spell binding life changing thing. A marriage of principles with what lies within ones heart. One doesn't require a formal recorded sworn act to believe and honor this oath.

    You only have to look to who tells you what is or what is not viable to understand where their fealty or motivations reside. That oath has a built in inherent bind that ties. Anything else is unmitigated bullshit.

    The simple truth that the one person in this land, with the highest power entrusted to him, whose first act was to sully and obfuscate his taking this oath, is a clear and resounding evidence of dishonor to this oath and all who revere it.

    How can such a man be ones legitimate lawful commander?
    How can any man with good conscience and of sound mind, especially another oath taker, tell another man he has a sworn duty to obey such commander?

    And if it can not be gleaned from this how important this oath is, and who it is important to, just look to see who the people of this Republic are who are asking why this oath is not being honored and who ain't sayin' a word.




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  4. The Bible says a man cannot serve two masters. You took the shilling and kissed the book. But are you still the obedient solder? Only you and your God know that. I think the time for all of us to make our decision and our stand has come. IMO there is no legitimate government in America. Everyone serving in congress, the courts, and the executive have repeatedly committed, or helped cover up High treason. The upper reaches of the military are no better, they no longer obey or even recognize any rule of law or morality for themselves. The constitution is overthrown ,leaving the people to cower helpless and listen for the sound of the jackboot and the crash of the ram in the night. To be taken without charge, trial, or appeal to whatever end faceless men decide. Or to be publicly murdered by men who will never be charged with any crime. Every man and woman in uniform today is serving evil. It is really that simple. Now is the time for every man and every woman to chose a side. Pray Hard Chose well.---Ray

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  5. Actually there are two oaths of office. The one an officer takes is solely to the constitution. The enlisted oath of office does mention faithfulness to the orders of the president and officers above.

    The officer is responsible for ultimate determination of when allegiance to those above is no longer consistent with his duty to the constitution.

    Herein lies the rub. The officer grades above company (major and above) are being purged of warriors pledged to the defense of the founders republic and replaced with perfumed princes. Political animals, bootlicking sycophants as desperate to hold on to their positions of privilege as the current crop of despicable politicians.


    If the current unpleasantness turns particularly ugly I suspect it will be company grade officers and NCOs from the operational community that largely determine how the military will respond when it comes to pointing dangerous things our way. May explain the mad rush to arm and tacticalize every civilian federal employee from fish and game to the department of education. Regards, aveighter. (Oath keeper btw)

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  6. Joint Chiefs of Staff, JCS Martin Dempsey's had said this about his *right hand man* in Iraq, Lt. Col. Mark Weber:

    "You can take a knee for a moment, but don't stay there".

    In 1776, we *betrayed* our British overlords because our taxes and gun confiscation. Knife to the throat. Julius Caeser got cut up like a carcass by his own for how they betrayed them all.

    Our Forefathers would be reloading by now.

    Martin Dempsey himself wrote that the Air Force was the most "awake" of all branches of service in the Military.

    An old school Army Ranger or Green Beret poster said, "Your Mind Is Your Primary Weapon". So true.

    No one can be a robot. You must think for yourself. Sounds so wierd to even argue that? Who would want to be an unthinking killer? What does that make one? A person should *regularly* re-check his worldview, religion, everything, as they mature through life.

    They try to make you a robot. They try. You are NO robot. DO not enslave or kill American children. Do NOT take away their defenses. You ARE the defense my brothers.

    "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
    George Washington

    Any real freedom of speech with ability to reach the average American was co-opted long ago by slick, well-funded TV.

    “Our own, our country’s honour call upon us for a vigorous and manly exertion; and if we now shamefully fail, we shall become infamous to the whole world.

    “Let us, then rely on the goodness of our cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions.

    “The eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us, and we shall have their blessings and praises, if happily we are the instruments of saving them from the tyranny mediated against them.


    “Let us, therefore, animate and encourage each other, and shew the whole world that a free man, contending for liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.

    “Liberty, property, life, and honor are all at stake; upon your courage and conduct rest the hopes of our bleeding and insulted country. Our wives, children, and parents expect safety from us alone, and they have every reason to believe that Heaven [God, Paradise, Nirvana, Moksha, The Eternal, The Universe] will crown with success so just a cause."
    George Washington

    Just wait for the right time. Right at the change, the transfer, when all hell is about to break lose; Everyone will be hyperfocused, busy, you will not. You will be aware of the larger game series. Right then is when you need to act, and boldly. Sadly boldly is all we have left.

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  7. Joint Chiefs of Staff, JCS Martin Dempsey's*right hand man* in Iraq, Lt. Col. Mark Weber said this to his troops:

    "You can take a knee for a moment, but don't stay there".

    The message was to think for yourself. Show respect, COC, but don't make it you all. Not above your Humanity, not above Natural Law, not above the Supreme of the Universe. Certainly not above the defense of the United States America. The enemy is in sheep's clothing my friends.

    In 1776, we *betrayed* our British overlords because of taxes and gun confiscation. Knife to the throat, all out War. Julius Caeser got cut up like a carcass by his own for how they betrayed them all. We went on to make the best Republic in the history of Earth.

    Our own ex-President Jimmy Carter said we don't even have a functioning democracy. Detriot is like Baghdad. Obama and Feinstein are so corrupted I don't consider them human.

    Gentlemen, our Forefathers would be reloading by now.

    Martin Dempsey himself wrote that the Air Force was the most "awake" of all branches of service in the Military. You don't think he knows? He totally gave Congress the evidence they needed to prosecute Benghazi further. He told Israel to go fuck themselves, American boys would not be dying in Syria. So the CIA does it underhanded. They're are many different agendas, "teams" in the Government.

    An old school Army Ranger or Green Beret poster said, "Your Mind Is Your Primary Weapon". So true, isn't it?

    No one can be a robot. You must think for yourself. Sounds so wierd to even argue that? Who would want to be an unthinking killer? What does that make one? A person should *regularly* re-check his worldview, religion, everything, as they mature through life. Reaffirm his or her convictions.

    They try to make you a robot. They try. You are NO robot. DO not enslave or kill American children. You are NO robot. Do NOT take away their/our defenses. You ARE the defense my brothers.

    "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
    George Washington

    >> Any real freedom of speech with ability to reach the average American was co-opted long ago by slick, well-funded TV.

    George cont.
    “Our own, our country’s honour call upon us for a vigorous and manly exertion; and if we now shamefully fail, we shall become infamous to the whole world.

    “Let us, then rely on the goodness of our cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions.

    “The eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us, and we shall have their blessings and praises, if happily we are the instruments of saving them from the tyranny mediated against them.

    “Let us, therefore, animate and encourage each other, and shew the whole world that a free man, contending for liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.

    “Liberty, property, life, and honor are all at stake; upon your courage and conduct rest the hopes of our bleeding and insulted country. Our wives, children, and parents expect safety from us alone, and they have every reason to believe that Heaven [God, Paradise, Nirvana, Moksha, The Eternal, The Universe] will crown with success so just a cause."
    George Washington

    Just wait for the right time. Right at the change, the transfer, when all hell is about to break lose; Everyone will be hyperfocused, busy, you will not. You will be aware of the larger game series. Right then is when you need to act, and boldly. Many will act with you. I'd say greater than half in some cases.

    Sadly boldly is all we have left.

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  8. What happened to ...'enemies foreign and domestic'...I must have missed the part that says except if you are the President.Logic, reason and a snippet of common sense would help you arrive at the right conclusion.

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  9. The president may be the military's CINC, but he's not the citizenry's CINC. Ever. Period. There's not constitutional provision for it. And, once discharged from the military (not simply separated, but in possession of a DD214) the former member is a private citizen and as such is no longer subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). And, as a citizen, once again enjoys the ability to say whatever one wishes in criticism of any government official, including POTUS, under the protections of the First Amendment. So, said officer needs to be told to piss off.

    As to the Oath, the provision to obey the orders of the POTUS and officers over the individual is subject to the higher provision to protect and defend the Constitution as well as the provision to obey only LAWFUL orders from superiors. Any order that circumvents, denigrates, mitigates or otherwise violates the Constitution must be disobeyed by said military member or that military member is in violation of his/her Oath, and as such is liable for action under the UCMJ as well as various civil laws. Period. The Nuremburg defense of, "I vus chust vollowink ordres" was answered with a hangman's noose and a statement, "You had a duty to a higher power...."

    Whether or not the violator (no matter the rank held) is prosecuted is another story. The Germans didn't think they'd be prosecuted for crimes against humanity, either.

    All those .mil types out there (and leo's as well, as they take a similary Oath) might want to dig a bit into the subject to determine how and when or if they will refuse to obey unlawful (not 'illegal' -- big difference) orders.


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  10. Your a Soldier. You have been a Soldier. You knew and know what is allowed and isn't.
    Once you retire you can say what you want but until then there are guidlines and regulations on social media. As someone with rank you should be enforcing this not having to be told. You can not pick and chose and if you have been in the military as long as you say you know that.
    It doesn't mean you can't express your opinions in the correct form but not in the way you want.

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    1. Hey, this isn't about me, or any personal quandary that I may have. I'm not asking for advice on my personal situation. Let me be clear on that.

      It's about raising an issue, which is an issue.

      Thanks to those who have inputted on this.

      For me, when the hammer falls, there is no doubt which side I am on. If you have to ask, then you haven't been reading my stuff.

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    2. Max, for most of your readers that clarification wasn’t needed but for a few of your denser readers (or trolls) it might have been. Regardless I’m glad you made the clarification so I can echo it.

      I can’t speak for everyone in a similar situation as you, but in my case the answer is also clear. An oath is a personal thing and it’s taken in the name of God. The Constitution is mentioned first in that oath for a reason. As for loyalty to the organization, well, my loyalties have always been God, family, country, Army; in that order. It’s a pretty easy decision to make when the organization demands loyalty and obedience above those first three. A traitor to God, family and country is a wretched man indeed.

      Americans do not swear oaths of fealty to men.

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  11. first, i think you give the amateur too much credit. i don't think he has the brainpower nor motivation to have a "plan". the result remains the same as if he did however. that said, my former brothers-at-arms tell me o-6's are even bitching openly in the zone in front of the troops. the amateur has made an amateur mistake in purging the fighting leadership to save his skin. that just gave those warriors free reign to resist later,and i believe they will. i know i will. the amateur is building his amateur army from gangbangers and freeshit army troops. good. that will kill two birds when we kill them. there are a great many silent patriots chafing under the yoke, waiting for a leader. the time is near, but not yet arrived. to be successful several things need be ready. 1)political leadership with at least marginal legitimacy(rand paul?) 2)alliances must be built 3) the yoke must get to the point that the middle class has nothing to lose by supporting the patriot rebellion 4)control of the media must be broken, by whatever means available.(i think this is beginning to play out all by itself, they hate being made fool of by their handlers.)
    personally my oath said "all enemies". look at egypt. not what the lamestream and kerry the coward would have us believe. they are squirming as their islamic regime crashed. now the good 90% of egypt has reclaimed their country from the terrorist dictator and they are blaming obama, both the terrorist and the people, and rightly so. i only wish our own military had such balls now. the secdef wants to decom half our carrier fleet, making us vulnerable to attack around the world. obama gives offenseive fighters and nearly invincible m1 tanks to terrorists, not to mention the cia giving away libyan missiles to who-knows-who. plenty of proof that the coc has become the enemy. the coc has violated his oath over and over, i feel no longer bound by the "orders of the president" clause.

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  12. “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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    1. If only Lincoln had kept to that statement, He and Andy Jackson really chewed up the Constitution, establishing the federal giant that we know.

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  13. I am a former soldier of 67 years old..I cannot run far,or fast,but i can still fight..Great shot with 5.56,.22,or bow and arrow...I will stand by my oath..

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